John De Mortimer
Husband John De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1330 - Ludlow, Shropshire, England
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Father: Edmund Mortimer Sir (Abt 1306-1331) 1 2 3
Mother: Elizabeth De Badlesmere (1313-1356) 1 2
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General Notes (Husband)
died young
John De Mortimer
Husband John De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1321 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
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AFN: G8B7-L4
Father: Roger Mortimer Earl Of March I (1287-1330) 1 2 3 4
Mother: Joan De Geneville Countess March (1284-1356) 1 2
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Robert De Vere and Margaret De Mortimer
Husband Robert De Vere 1 2
Born: 24 Jun 1257 - Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
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Died: 1357
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Father: Robert De Vere 5th Earl Of Oxford (Abt 1240-Bef 1296) 1 2
Mother: Alice De Sanford (1231-1312) 1 2
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Wife Margaret De Mortimer 1
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John Touchet and Margery De Mortimer
Husband John Touchet 1
Born: Abt 1350 - Heleigh, Staffordshire, England
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Died: 23 Jun 1372 - La Rochelle (Sea Battle)
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AFN: 9B03-6F
Father: John Touchet (1324-1371) 1
Mother: Joan Audley (1331-1392) 1
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Wife Margery De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1353 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
Christened: - Of, Ludlow, Shropshire, England
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AFN: 9B03-7L
Father: Roger Mortimer Earl Of March II (1328-1360) 1 2 3
Mother: Phillipia Montacute Montagu Countess March (Abt 1336-1381) 1
Children
1 M John Touchet
AKA: 4th Lord Audley
Born: 23 Apr 1371 - Heleigh, Stafford, Eng.
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Died: 19 Dec 1408 - Heleigh, Stafford, Eng.
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AFN: 9B03-3W
Spouse: Isabell Baroness Audley (1375-After 1404)
General Notes (Husband)
The Complete Peerage GEC Eng V Vol 1 p. 340; Collins P e e r a ge Eng Z Vol 6 p. 512, 513; Magna Charta Eng 1 3 8 p t 3 p . 36 6; American Family Antiquity Am 155 Vo l 2 p . 248 , 249 ; Magn a Charta Eng 138 pt 2 p. 228; TheG enealo gist E ng Pu b AFns V ol 36 p.9-21; Misc Gen of Hera ldica E ng Pu b AE 2 s Vol 3p.3- . Archive Record - SLC, UT
Theobald Verdon Lord and Maud De Mortimer
Husband Theobald Verdon Lord 1 2
Born: 8 Sep 1278
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Died: 27 Jul 1316 - Alton 5
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Father: Theobald De Verdon (Abt 1248-1309) 2
Mother: Margery ( - ) 2
Marriage: 29 Jul 1302 - Wigmore, Hereford
Other Spouse: Elizabeth De Clare Lady (1295-1360) 1 2 6 - 4 Feb 1315 - Near Bristol
Noted events in his life were:
• TITL, Sir, Lord, Baron
Wife Maud De Mortimer 2
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Died: 17 Sep 1312 - Alton.Died After Childbirth.
Buried: 9 Oct 1312 - Croxden Abbey
Father: Edmund De Mortimer ( - ) 2
Mother: Margaret De Fenles ( - ) 2
Children
1 F Joan De Verdon 2
Born: 9 Aug 1303 - Wootton, Stanton Lacy, Shropshire
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Died: 2 Oct 1334 - Alton
Buried: 7 Jan 1334 - Croxden Abbey 7
Spouse: John De Montagu ( -1317) 2
Marr: 28 Apr 1317 - King's Chapel, Windsor Park
Spouse: Thomas Of Sheffield De Furnival ( -1339) 2
Marr: 24 Feb 1317
2 F Elizabeth De Verdon 2
Born: Abt 1306
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Died: 1 May 1360
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Spouse: Bartholemew De Burghersh (1329-1355) 2
Marr: Bef 11 Jun 1320
3 F Margery De Verdon 2
Born: 10 Aug 1310
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1 NAME de /Verdon/ 1 UPDA 2 DATE 1299 2 PLAC Acceded:
Lord of Westmeath, Justiciar of Ireland.
Maud De Mortimer
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Wife Maud De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1307 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
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Died: After Aug 1345
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AFN: G8B7-D3
Father: Roger Mortimer Earl Of March I (1287-1330) 1 2 3 4
Mother: Joan De Geneville Countess March (1284-1356) 1 2
William La Zouche and Maud De Mortimer
Husband William La Zouche 1
Born: Abt 1209 - North Molton, Devonshire, England
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Died: 1271
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AFN: 84ZT-GD
Father: Roger La Zouche (Abt 1228-Bef 1285) 1
Mother: Margaret La Zouche (Abt 1179-After 1231) 1
Marriage: Abt 1239
Wife Maud De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1213
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AFN: 9R30-8K
Children
1 F Joyce La Zouche 1
Born: Abt 1250 - King's Nympton, Devonshire, England
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Died: After 1269 - London, Middlesex County, England
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Spouse: Robert De Mortimer (1246-1287) 1
Marr: Abt 1269 - London, Middlesex County, England
General Notes (Husband)
Source: LDS Ancestral File
General Notes (Wife)
Source: LDS Ancestral File
William Malet and Maud De Mortimer
Husband William Malet 1
Born: Abt 1135 - London, Middlesex County, England
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Wife Maud De Mortimer 1
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1 M Gilbert Malet 1
Born: Bef 1170 - Curry-Malet, Somerset, England
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Died: After 1198 - Curry-Malet, Somerset, England
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Spouse: Alice Picot (Bef 1170- ) 1
Ralph De Mortimer and Gwladys Verch Llewelyn
Husband Ralph De Mortimer 1 2 3 4
Born: 1190 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 8
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Died: 6 Aug 1246 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 8
Buried: - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
AFN: 91QG-G0
Father: Roger De Mortimer (1158-1215) 1
Mother: Isabel De Ferrieres (Abt 1172-Bef 1252) 1
Marriage: 1230 - England
Other Spouse: Gwladus Duy ( - )
Noted events in his life were:
• Alt. Birth, London, Middlesex County, England, 1190
• Alt. Death, London, Middlesex County, England, 6 Aug 1246
Wife Gwladys Verch Llewelyn 1 2 3 4
Born: Abt 1194 - Gwynedd, Gwynedd, Wales 8
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Died: 1251 - Windsor, Berkshire, England 8
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AFN: GLCF-TX
Father: Llywelyn Ap Iorwerth Prince Of Wales (1164-1240) 1 2 3 9
Mother: Tanglwy Verch Llywarch (Abt 1168-1236) 1 2
Other Spouse: Reginald De Braose (1182-1228) 1 2 3 6 10 - Bef 1221 - , , Wales
Children
1 M Roger De Mortimer
Born: 1221 - , Cwmaron Castle, Radnorshire, Wales
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Died: 27 Oct 1282 - , Kingsland, Herefordshire, England
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AFN: 8HRJ-PH
Spouse: Maud De Braose (Abt 1110-After 1155) 1
Marr: Abt 1247
2 F Joan Mortimer 1 4
Born: Abt 1223 - Of, Wigmore, Hereford, England
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Died: Abt 1293 - Y
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AFN: 186V-J9D
Spouse: Peter Corbet (Abt 1239-1300) 1
Marr: 1252 - London, Middlesex County, England
3 M Hugh Mortimer 1 4
Born: Abt 1233 - Of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
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Died: Abt Jan 1272-1273
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AFN: B455-4H
Spouse: Agatha De Ferrers ( - ) 1
4 M John De Mortimer 1 4
Born: Abt 1235 - Of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
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Died: - Y
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AFN: G8B9-GP
5 M Peter De Mortimer 1 4
Born: Abt 1237 - Of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
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Died: - Y
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AFN: G8B9-HV
6 F Isolda De Mortimer 4
Born: Abt 1239 - Of, Wigmore, Kent, England
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Died: - Y
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AFN: 18GS-S49
General Notes (Wife)
1 NAME Gwladus DDU "the/Dark"/
Gwladus DDU (the Dark-eyed) widow of Reginald de Braose Source differ as to wether Joan or Tanwystyl is Gwladus' mother. Llywelyn did not marry Joan until 1205 at the EARLIEST, or 1206, if you believe more detailed sources. Llywelyn did not receive the final (third) letter from the Pope declaring his betrothal to the daughter of the King of Man to be void until 1205. Giving a year for conception and birth, if one assumed Gwladys were daughter of Joan, she could not have been born earlier than 1206 or 1207. If she were older than eight or nine years old in 1215, she could not have been daughter of Joan. As I stated before, the marriage to Reginald de Braose in 1215 was one of political expediency, and not one where the were waiting for the girl to come of age (so to speak). You'd be relying heavily on the coincidence that Gwladys happened to be in that very narrow range between seven (before which age she could not even have been betrothed) and eight, or nine. Then we have Joan's son and heir David being born BY 1208 (gave homage in 1229). If Joan were indeed married in 1206, and David born in 1208 (he cannot have been born later if the law was followed), that is an awfully tight squeeze to put Gwladys's coincidental birth there.
I still think the claim that Gwladys was daughter of Joan, and that she therefore MUST have been born in 1207--not before, not after--is doubtful.
"Paul C. Reed" <rpc5@uswest.net>
In answer to your question, there was a clear and unambigious statement that Gladys Dhu was the daughter of Llywelyn and Joan in the chronicle of Adam of Usk. Adam knew the Mortimer family and presumably had access to their archives. While Adam is a late date witness and not altogether reliable, he is rather emphatic that Gladys was Joan's daughter.
As for another late date testimony of the Mortimer family's descent from Llywelyn, I find the Visitation of the North prepared c. 1480-1500 states that "Roger [recte Ralph] Mortemer duxit Gladiswiscam filiam principis Wallie." [Reference: Surtees Society, vol. 144, published 1930, pg. 3.
Presumably the point of reciting the extended Mortimer pedigree back to Prince Llywelyn is because the English descendants of the Mortimer family c. 1480-1500 believed that Gladys was the legitimate daughter of Prince Llywelyn, by his wife, Joan.
Adam of Usk and the Visitation of the North aside, I believe the best evidence of Gladys Dhu's parentage is the fact that Gladys' father, Llywelyn, released two castles which he had in free marriage with his wife, Joan, to Gladys' husband, Ralph de Mortimer. I posted a transcript of Llywelyn's charter to Ralph de Mortimer on the newsgroup. If you need help finding the transcript, please let me know.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
If I read this right are you saying that as there was an ongoing dispute with the Mortimers over Knighton and Norton, Llywelyn may have decided to cut his losses and give away the properties with Gwladys. The pragmatic value of such an act would have overridden the issue of her maternity. It is my understanding that legally Llywellyn could have given the properties away with the consent of Joan, anyway.
Also in 1229, Gwladys Dhu accompanied her brother as widow of Reginald de Braose for the purpose of negotiations in London for her to become bride of Ralph Mortimer? If this is the case, we cannot draw any conclusions about her maternity from this event.
Cheers
Rosie "Rosie Bevan" <cbevan@paradise.net.nz>
Two major pieces of evidence point to Joan as being Gladys' mother.
[GMacGen@aol.com] Giles tells us that Peter C. Bartrum's _Welsh Genealogies_ [table Gruffudd ap Cynan 4] gives the mother of Gwladys Ddu as Tangwystl. Here is what is shown in Peter C. Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies, page 446, Gruffudd ap Cynan 4:
Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd
m Margred f. Madog (Bl ap C 3)
| Llywelyn d. 1240
(1) Joan d. King John m. 1205
(a) Tangwystl f. Llywarch Goch (LL. Ho. 1)
| Gwladus Ddu d. 1251
(1) Reginald de Braose d. 1228
(2) Ralph II Mortimer d. 1246
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Ralph De Mortimer and Gwladus Duy
Husband Ralph De Mortimer 1 2 3 4
Born: 1190 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 8
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Died: 6 Aug 1246 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 8
Buried: - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
AFN: 91QG-G0
Father: Roger De Mortimer (1158-1215) 1
Mother: Isabel De Ferrieres (Abt 1172-Bef 1252) 1
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Gwladys Verch Llewelyn (Abt 1194-1251) 1 2 3 4 - 1230 - England
Noted events in his life were:
• Alt. Birth, London, Middlesex County, England, 1190
• Alt. Death, London, Middlesex County, England, 6 Aug 1246
Wife Gwladus Duy
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Father: Llywelyn Ap Iorwerth Prince Of Wales (1164-1240) 1 2 3 9
Mother: Princess Joan Plantagenet Of Wales (1210-1237) 1 2 9
Ralph De Mortimer and Milisent Ferrers
Husband Ralph De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1082 8
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Died: 1110
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Father: Roger De Mortimer ( - )
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Wife Milisent Ferrers 1
Born: Abt 1086 8
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Died: Bef 1088
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Children
1 M Hugh De Mortimer 1
Born: 1108 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 8
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Died: 1185 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 8
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AFN: 9HQN-FL
Spouse: Maud Le Meschines (Abt 1126-After 1190) 1
Marr: Abt 1157 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
2 M William De Mortimer 1
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3 M Robert De Mortimer 1
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4 F Hawise De Mortimer 1
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General Notes for Child Hugh De Mortimer
Source: LDS Ancestral File; Genmatch (Albert Bruns An c e s t ors)
Ralph De Mortimer
Husband Ralph De Mortimer 1
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Mother: Maud Le Meschines (Abt 1126-After 1190) 1
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Ralph Of Wigmore De Mortimer
Husband Ralph Of Wigmore De Mortimer 2
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1 F Hawise Of Wigmore De Mortimer 2
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Spouse: Stephen De Aumale Lord Holdern (Bef 1070-Bef 1130) 1 2
Robert De Mortimer
Husband Robert De Mortimer 1
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Father: Ralph De Mortimer (Abt 1082-1110) 1
Mother: Milisent Ferrers (Abt 1086-Bef 1088) 1
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Robert De Mortimer and Joyce La Zouche
Husband Robert De Mortimer 1
Born: 1246 - Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England
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Died: 7 Apr 1287 - London, Middlesex County, England
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Marriage: Abt 1269 - London, Middlesex County, England
Wife Joyce La Zouche 1
Born: Abt 1250 - King's Nympton, Devonshire, England
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Died: After 1269 - London, Middlesex County, England
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Father: William La Zouche (Abt 1209-1271) 1
Mother: Maud De Mortimer (Abt 1213- ) 1
Children
1 M William La Zouche (De Mortimer) 1
Born: 1269 - King's Nympton, Devonshire, Devonshire, England
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Died: 28 Feb 1335-1336 - Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England
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Spouse: Alice Toeni (1284-1323) 1 2 6
Marr: Abt 1316 - London, Middlesex County, England
Roger De Mortimer 4th Earl Of March & Ulster and Eleanor Holand Lady
Husband Roger De Mortimer 4th Earl Of March & Ulster 1 2 3 6 11 12
Born: 11 Apr 1374 - Usk, Monmouthshire, England 6 11
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Died: 20 Jul 1398 - Kells, Meath, Ireland 3 6 11
Buried: - Wigmore, Hertford
AFN: 921Q-CG
Father: Earl Edmund De Mortimer Of March (1351-1381) 1 2 3 6 12
Mother: Countess Philipa Plantagenet Countess March (1355-1382) 1 2 3 6 12
Marriage: Abt 7 Oct 1388 6
Other Spouse: Joan ( -1356) 2 12
Noted events in his life were:
• Alt. Birth, London, Middlesex County, England, 1374
• Alt. Death, London, Middlesex County, England, 1398
Wife Eleanor Holand Lady 1 2 3 6 11 12
Born: 1392 - Upholland, Lancashire, England 6 11
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Died: 18 Oct 1405 3 6 11
Buried: 23 Oct 1405 - , Bisham, Berkshire, England 6 11
AFN: 8J5H-PK
Father: Earl Thomas De Holand Of Kent (Abt 1325-1397) 1 2 3 6 11
Mother: Countess Alice Fitzalan Of Kent (Abt 1352-1415) 1 2 4 6 11
Other Spouse: Thomas Of Salisbury De Montacute (1388-1428) 2 6 - 23 May 1399 6
Other Spouse: Edward Cherleton Lord Cherleton (Abt 1370-1420) 1 2 3 6 12 - After 19 Jun 1399 - Upholland, Lancashire, England 6
Children
1 F Anne Mortimer Lady 1 2 3 6 11 12
AKA: Anne De Mortimer, Anne De Mortimer
Born: 27 Dec 1390 - New Forest, West Meath, Ireland 6
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Died: Sep 1411 - Childbirth 6 11
Buried: - Langley, Hertfordshire, England 6
AFN: 8HS5-NW
Spouse: Earl Richard Plantagenet Of Cambridge (Abt 1376-1415) 1 2 3 6 11 12
Marr: Abt Jun 1408 - Of 6 11
2 F Eleanor De Mortimer Countess Devon 1 6 11
AKA: Eleanor De Mortimer
Born: Abt 1387 - New Forest, West Meath, Ireland 6
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Died: 1418 6 11
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AFN: 921R-LS
Spouse: Edward Courtenay Sir ( - ) 1 2 3 6 12
Marr: Between 1406 and 1409 - Of, New Forest, West Meath, Ireland 6
3 M Earl Edmund De Mortimer Of March 1 2 3 6 11 12
AKA: Edmund De Mortimer
Born: 6 Nov 1391 - New Forest, West Meath, Ireland 6
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Died: 18 Jan 1424-1425 - Sp, Trim, Meath, Ireland 3 6 11
Buried: - Austinfriars, Clare, Suffolk, England 6 11
AFN: 921R-M0
Spouse: Anne Stafford Countess March (1400-1432) 1 2 3 6 12
Marr: Abt 1415 - Of 6
4 M Roger De Mortimer 1 2 3 6 11 12
AKA: Roger De Mortimer
Born: 24 Mar 1393 - Netherwood, Pembrokeshire, Wales 6
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Died: 1409 3 6 11
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AFN: 921R-N5
5 F Alice Mortimer 2 12
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6 F Eleanor Mortimer 2 3 12
Born: Abt 1395
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Spouse: Edward Courtenay Sir ( - ) 1 2 3 6 12
General Notes (Husband)
[royalty.ged]
TITL [EARL OF MARCH & ULSTER]/
General Notes (Wife)
[royalty.ged]
NAME Eleanor (Alianore) (Plantagenet) De /HOLAND/
General Notes for Child Anne Mortimer Lady
[royalty.ged]
TITL [COUNTESS OF CAMBRIDGE]/
General Notes for Child Eleanor De Mortimer Countess Devon
Died SP (no Children).
General Notes for Child Earl Edmund De Mortimer Of March
1 UPDA 2 DATE 20 JUL 1398 2 PLAC Acceded:
Earl of Ulster. Died of the Plague.
General Notes for Child Roger De Mortimer
unmarried
Roger De Mortimer
Husband Roger De Mortimer
Born: - Mortemer, Sur-Ealne, Normandy, France
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1 M Ralph De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1082 8
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Died: 1110
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Spouse: Milisent Ferrers (Abt 1086-Bef 1088) 1
Roger De Mortimer
Husband Roger De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1309 - Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
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AFN: G8B7-F8
Father: Roger Mortimer Earl Of March I (1287-1330) 1 2 3 4
Mother: Joan De Geneville Countess March (1284-1356) 1 2
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Roger De Mortimer
Husband Roger De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1350 - Ludlow, Shropshire, England
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Father: Roger Mortimer Earl Of March II (1328-1360) 1 2 3
Mother: Phillipia Montacute Montagu Countess March (Abt 1336-1381) 1
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William De Mortimer
Husband William De Mortimer 1
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Father: Ralph De Mortimer (Abt 1082-1110) 1
Mother: Milisent Ferrers (Abt 1086-Bef 1088) 1
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William De Mortimer
Husband William De Mortimer 1
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Father: Hugh De Mortimer (1108-1185) 1
Mother: Maud Le Meschines (Abt 1126-After 1190) 1
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William Le Zouche De Mortimer and Alice Toeni
Husband William Le Zouche De Mortimer 1
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Wife Alice Toeni 1 2 6
Born: 1284 - Flamsted, Herefordshire, England 6 8
Christened: - (26-1310)
Died: 1 Jan 1323-1324 - London, Middlesex County, England 6 8
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AFN: 9R2Z-D5
Father: Roger VII De Toeni Lord Flamstead (1255-Bef 1295) 1 2 6
Mother: Mary (Abt 1260-After 1284) 1 2 6
Other Spouse: Roger De Bigod Priory Thetford (Abt 1060-1107) 1 2 6 - Abt 1080 - Of L, England 6
Other Spouse: Earl Guy De Beauchamp Of Warwick 10Th (1278-1315) 1 2 6 - 12 Feb 1309 - Of, Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England 6
Other Spouse: Thomas De Leyburn ( -Abt 1307) 6
Other Spouse: William La Zouche (De Mortimer) (1269-1335) 1 - Abt 1316 - London, Middlesex County, England
Other Spouse: William De Mortimer La Zouche ( - ) 2 6 - Bef 25 Feb 1316-1317 6
Other Spouse: Thomas De Leyburn ( -1307) 2
Other Spouse: Roger De Bigod Baron (Abt 1150-Bef 1221) 1 2 6
Noted events in her life were:
• Alt. Birth, London, Middlesex County, England, Abt 1280
• Alt. Death, London, Middlesex County, England, After 1313
Children
1 F Joyce Le Zouche De Mortimer 1
Born: Abt 1240 - King's Nympton, Devonshire, Devonshire, England
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Spouse: John II Baron Botetourt (Abt 1310- ) 1
General Notes for Child Joyce Le Zouche De Mortimer
Source: LDS Ancestral File
Alan De Morville
Husband Alan De Morville (details suppressed for this person)
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Father: Richard De Morville
Mother: Alice De Percy
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William De Washington and Margaret De Morville
Husband William De Washington 1
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Died: 1290
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Father: Walter De Washington (Abt 1212-1264) 1
Mother: Joan De Whitchester ( - ) 1
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Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation, Sir
Wife Margaret De Morville 1
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1 M Robert De Washington 1
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Died: 1324
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Spouse: Joan De Strickland ( - ) 1
Richard De Morville and Alice De Percy
Husband Richard De Morville (details suppressed for this person)
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Father: William De Percy (Abt 1112-1175) 2
Mother: Sibyl De Valognes ( -After 1212) 2
Other Spouse: Hugh Du Puiset
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1 M Alan De Morville (details suppressed for this person)
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Count Hubert Senlis Of Senlis & Vermandois and Countess Beatrice De Morvois Of Vermandois
Husband Count Hubert Senlis Of Senlis & Vermandois 1 2 4 6 9 11
AKA: Count Of Senlis Hubert, Herbert I Count Of Vermandois
Born: 0850 - Vermandois, Normandy, France 6 13
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Died: 0900 - Y 11 13
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AFN: 9G83-0H
Father: Pepin II Quentin Vermandois Count Of Peronne (Abt 0818-After 0840) 1 2 4 6 9 11
Mother: Peronne De Vermandois (WFT Est 0814-WFT Est 0848) 1 9
Marriage: WFT Est 0861-0900
Noted events in his life were:
• Alt. Birth 11, Of, Vermandois, Neustria, Abt 0848
Wife Countess Beatrice De Morvois Of Vermandois 1 2 6 9
Born: Abt 0842 - France 6 8
Christened:
Died: WFT Est 0892-0945
Buried:
AFN: 9G81-C4
Father: Guerri I Of Morvois Count Of Morvois ( - ) 1
Mother: Eve Of Roussillon ( - ) 1
Children
1 F Kunigunde ( ) Vermandois 1
Born:
Christened:
Died: After 0943
Buried:
Spouse: Udo I Of Oberlahngau Count In The Wetterau (0880-0949) 1
Marr: Bef 0918
2 F Unknown De Vermandois 9
Born: Abt 0882 - Vermandois, Normandy, France
Christened:
Died: 12 Dec 0949
Buried:
AFN: 9G82-TN
Spouse: Count Udo Of The Wetterau (0880-0949) 4 6 9
Marr: Bef 0918 6
3 F Queen Beatrix De Vermandois Of France 1 2 9 11
AKA: Beatrice De Vermandois
Born: Abt 0880 - Of, Vermandois, Neustria 11
Christened: - Queen Of France
Died: Mar 930-31 11
Buried:
AFN: 9G85-G6
Spouse: King Robert I D'orleans Of France (0870-0923) 1 2 4 9 11
Marr: 0890 - France 11
4 F Sprote De Bretagne Of Senlis 1 2 4 6 9 14
AKA: Sprote De Bretagne
Born: Abt 0911 - Bretagne, Brittany, France 6 8
Christened:
Died: Bef 0945 - Y
Buried:
AFN: 9HMF-3L
Spouse: Duc Guillaume I Normandy De Normandie (0876-0942) 1 2 4 6 9 11 14
Marr: Abt 0932 - Associated With 6 14. (Divorced)
5 M Count Herbert II De Vermandois Of Vermandois 1 2 6 9 11 15
AKA: Herbert II Count Of Vermandois
Born: 0884 - Of Vermandois, Normandy, France 6 8
Christened: - Count Of Vermandois
Died: 23 Feb 0943 - St. Quentin 6 8
Buried: - St. Quentin 6
AFN: 9G82-J4
Spouse: Princess Adela Hildebrante De Neustria Of France (Abt 0897-After 0931) 1 2 6 9 11 15
Marr: Bef 0907 - France 6 13. (Divorced)
Spouse: Liegarde (Abt 0890-WFT Est 0937) 1
Marr: WFT Est 0921-0941
General Notes (Husband)
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Sources: Sir Anthony Wagner, The Royal Arms College, "Decendents of Edwar- Gary Boyd Roberts?-Aug 2000-Pres.GED
General Notes (Wife)
[royalty.ged]
NAME Mrs-Herbert I, Countess Of /VERMANDOIS/
General Notes for Child Kunigunde ( ) Vermandois
!DEATH:edwardiii.ged, edwardiii.ged
General Notes for Child Queen Beatrix De Vermandois Of France
[royalty.ged]
TITL [QUEEN OF FRANCE]/[bobspu.ged]
Sources: Sir Anthony Wagner, The Royal Arms College, "Decendents of Edwar- Gary Boyd Roberts?-Aug 2000-Pres.GED
General Notes for Child Sprote De Bretagne Of Senlis
[royalty.ged]
BIRT PLAC ,, Bretagne (Brittany), France
General Notes for Child Count Herbert II De Vermandois Of Vermandois
!BIRTH:edwardiii.ged, edwardiii.ged
!DEATH:edwardiii.ged, edwardiii.ged
Charles De Moss and Elizabeth Spurgeon
Husband Charles De Moss 16 17
Born: Abt 1807 18
Christened:
Died: 15 Nov 1887 19
Buried:
Father: James De Moss ( - )
Mother: Frances Snider ( - )
Marriage: 1832 20
Wife Elizabeth Spurgeon 16 17
Born: 1810 - Preston County, West Virginia 21
Christened:
Died: 1894 - Medina, Outgamie County, Wisconsin 22
Buried:
Father: Jonathan Spurgeon (1787-1853) 23 24
Mother: Ruth Jeffreys (Abt 1790- )
Children
1 M Dennis De Moss
Born: 1834 20
Christened:
Died: 17 Mar 1886 20
Buried:
Spouse: Susan Ours (living)
Spouse: Sarah Black ( - )
Marr: 2 Dec 1857 20
2 F Ruth De Moss 16 17
Born: 4 Jul 1836 16 17 25
Christened:
Died: 13 Dec 1907 16 17 20
Buried:
Spouse: Philo J. Tinney ( - )
Marr: 27 May 1858 - 1838?? 26
Spouse: George Nutter ( - )
Marr: 1875 20
Spouse: George Washington Nutter (1821-1896) 16 17
Marr: 24 Apr 1870 - Lewis Co., WV 16 17
3 F Rachel Demoss
Born: 21 Sep 1838 - Virginia 20
Christened:
Died: 15 Apr 1907 - Antigo, Langlade County, Wisconsin 20
Buried:
Spouse: John Nicholas Tinney (1836-1908)
Marr: 15 Nov 1860 - West Virginia 20
4 M Jonathon De Moss
Born: 1840 20
Christened:
Died: - During Civil War 186? 20
Buried:
5 M James S. De Moss
Born: 18 Jan 1843 20
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Rachel Black ( - )
Marr: 1864 20
6 F Sarah Jane De Moss
Born: Apr 1845 20
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Harvey R. Nye ( - )
Marr: 6 May 1888 20. (Divorced)
7 M Nathaniel De Moss
Born: 1847 20
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Nancy E. Tenney ( - )
Marr: 30 Sep 1869 20
Spouse: Letta Tracy Bovee ( - )
Marr: 6 May 1887 20
8 M Jermiah De Moss
Born: 1850 20
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Mitilda Berdan ( - )
Marr: 1 Jan 1893 20
9 M William De Moss
Born: 18 Jun 1854 20
Christened:
Died: 27 Jan 1870 20
Buried:
General Notes (Wife)
[bobspu.ged]
Other Source: Barb Mikesell-Feb 2000
General Notes for Child Dennis De Moss
[bobspu.ged]
m1. Sarah Black m2. Susan Ours
Source: Barb Mikesell-Feb 2000
General Notes for Child Ruth De Moss
[bobspu.ged]
m1. Philo J. Tinney m2. George Nutter
Source: Spurgeon Quarterly Issue 7, May 1986, p171
General Notes for Child Nathaniel De Moss
[bobspu.ged]
m1. Nancy E. Tenney m2. Letta Tracy Bovee
Source: Barb Mikesell-Feb 2000
Dennis De Moss and Susan Ours
Husband Dennis De Moss
Born: 1834 20
Christened:
Died: 17 Mar 1886 20
Buried:
Father: Charles De Moss (Abt 1807-1887) 16 17
Mother: Elizabeth Spurgeon (1810-1894) 16 17
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Sarah Black ( - ) - 2 Dec 1857 20
Wife Susan Ours (details suppressed for this person)
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
[bobspu.ged]
m1. Sarah Black m2. Susan Ours
Source: Barb Mikesell-Feb 2000
James De Moss and Frances Snider
Husband James De Moss
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Marriage:
Wife Frances Snider
Born:
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Died:
Buried:
Children
1 M Charles De Moss 16 17
Born: Abt 1807 18
Christened:
Died: 15 Nov 1887 19
Buried:
Spouse: Elizabeth Spurgeon (1810-1894) 16 17
Marr: 1832 20
Jonathon De Moss
Husband Jonathon De Moss
Born: 1840 20
Christened:
Died: - During Civil War 186? 20
Buried:
Father: Charles De Moss (Abt 1807-1887) 16 17
Mother: Elizabeth Spurgeon (1810-1894) 16 17
Marriage:
Wife
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